承担责任以获取股权

Naval Ravikant 2019-04-13

承担责任以获取股权

承担责任以获取股权

如果你有高度的责任感,你就更不容易被取代

Naval: 责任很重要,因为这是你获得杠杆的方式。这是你获得信誉的方式。这也是你获得股权的方式。你将获得业务的一部分。

当你与他人谈判时,最终如果有人决定如何补偿你,这个决定将基于你的可替代性。如果你有高度的责任感,这会使你更不容易被取代。然后他们必须给你股权,这是上升空间的一部分。

承担责任就像在你所有的工作中获得股权

股权本身就是一个很好的例子,因为股权也是一种基于风险的金融工具。股权意味着在所有需要保证资金的人得到回报之后,你能获得一切。

如果你看公司资本的层级结构,员工首先获得报酬。他们首先获得薪水。在法律[破产]程序中,薪水是神圣不可侵犯的。如果你是董事会成员,公司花了太多钱,有拖欠的薪水要支付,政府可以追究你的个人责任来偿还薪水。员工获得最大的安全保障,但作为这种安全的交换,他们没有那么多上升空间。

接下来是债务持有人,可能是向公司提供运营资金的银行家,他们需要每月或每年获得固定的票息,但除此之外他们不会获得更多的上升空间。他们可能每年赚取5%、10%、15%、20%、25%,但这就是他们上升空间的限制。

最后是股权持有人。这些人实际上将获得大部分上升空间。一旦债务持有人和薪水得到支付,剩下的都归他们所有。

但如果没有足够的钱来支付薪水和债务持有人,或者刚好够支付薪水和债务持有人,这在大多数企业中,大多数情况下都会发生,股权持有人什么也得不到。

股权持有人承担更大的风险,但作为交换,他们获得几乎无限的上升空间。你可以在所有工作中做同样的事情。本质上,为你的行为承担责任就像在你所有的工作中获得股权头寸。你为了更大的上升空间而承担更大的下行风险。

要认识到,在现代社会中,下行风险并不那么大。即使在良好的生态系统中,个人破产也可以清除债务。我最熟悉硅谷,但一般来说,只要你诚实并做出高度诚信的努力,人们会原谅失败。

在失败方面真的没有什么好害怕的,所以人们应该承担比实际更多的责任。

Nivi: 责任实际上很脆弱,还是你只是说我们天生就不想在公共场合失败,所以感觉它是一件脆弱的事情?

Naval: 我认为它实际上可能是脆弱的。责任的一个例子是,你是一名飞机飞行员。作为机长,你要对整个飞机承担责任。

假设飞机出了什么问题。你以后不能把责任推给任何人。你不能责怪乘务员或空姐。你不能责怪副驾驶。你是机长。你对这艘船负责。如果你搞砸了,船就会坠毁,会有直接的后果。

在过去,人们期望船长与船同沉。如果船在下沉,那么最后一个能离开的人就是船长。我认为责任确实伴随着真正的风险,但我们讨论的是商业背景。

这里的风险可能是,你可能是最后一个收回资本的人。你可能是最后一个为你的时间获得报酬的人。你投入的时间,你投入公司的资本,这些都是有风险的。

即使一个企业失败了,你的名字在上面,这也不如出现诚信问题那么糟糕。例如,伯尼·马多夫,马多夫投资公司,这个名字在投资界永远不会再好了。你可能是伯尼·马多夫的曾曾曾孙。你不会进入投资行业,因为他毁了家族的名声。

我认为如今,名字带来的责任风险更多是围绕诚信,而不是纯粹的经济失败。

责任是声誉上的利益相关

Nivi: 关于责任,我最大的收获是,你的回报将与你的责任直接成正比。我也认为这就是为什么像塔勒布这样的人会反对那些没有责任却获得回报的CEO。

Naval: 是的。塔勒布的《利益相关》是必读之作。如果你想在现代生活中取得任何成就并理解现代系统如何运作,那么《利益相关》将是我推荐阅读书单的前几名。

责任、利益相关,这些概念密切相关。我认为责任是声誉上的利益相关。这是把你个人的声誉作为利益相关放在线上。

责任是一个简单的概念。责任唯一可能有点反直觉的部分是,我们目前在社会上被洗脑,不要承担责任,不要以明显的方式承担责任。

我认为有办法让团队的每个成员都能承担自己部分的责任。这就是你如何获得一个运作良好的团队,同时仍然将功劳和损失放在正确的栏目中。


Take Accountability to Earn Equity

Take Accountability to Earn Equity

If you have high accountability, you’re less replaceable

Naval: Accountability is important because that’s how you’re going to get leverage. That’s how you’re going to get credibility. It’s also how you’re going to get equity. You’re going to get a piece of the business.

When you’re negotiating with other people, ultimately if someone else is making a decision about how to compensate you, that decision will be based on how replaceable you are. If you have high accountability, that makes you less replaceable. Then they have to give you equity, which is a piece of the upside.

Taking accountability is like taking equity in all your work

Equity itself is a good example because equity is also a risk-based instrument. Equity means you get paid everything after all the people who need guaranteed money are paid back.

If you look at the hierarchy of capital in a company, the employees get paid first. They get paid the salary first. In legal [bankruptcy] proceedings, the salaries are sacrosanct. If you’re a board member and the company spends too much money and has back salaries to pay, the government can go after you personally to pay back the salaries. The employees get the most security, but in exchange for that security, they don’t have as much upside.

Next in line would be the debt holders who are maybe the bankers who lend money to the company for operations and they need to make their fixed coupon every month or every year, but they don’t get much more upside beyond that. They might be making 5, 10, 15, 20, 25% a year, but that’s what their upside is limited to.

Finally there are the equity holders. These people are actually going to get most of the upside. Once the debt holders are paid off and the salaries are paid off, whatever remains goes to them.

But if there isn’t enough money to pay off the salaries and the debt holders, or if there’s just barely enough to pay off the salary and the debt holders, which is what happens with most businesses, most of the times, the equity holders get nothing.

The equity holders take on greater risk, but in exchange, they get nearly unlimited upside. You can do the same with all of your work. Essentially, taking accountability for your actions is the same as taking an equity position in all of your work. You’re taking greater downside risk for greater upside.

Realize that in modern society, the downside risk is not that large. Even personal bankruptcy can wipe the debts clean in good ecosystems. I’m most familiar with Silicon Valley, but generally people will forgive failures as long as you were honest and made a high integrity effort.

There’s not really that much to fear in terms of failure, and so people should be taking on a lot more accountability than they actually are.

Nivi: Is accountability actually fragile or do you really just mean that we’re hardwired not to fail in public, so it just feels like it’s a fragile thing?

Naval: I think it could actually be fragile. An example of accountability is you’re an airplane pilot. As a captain, you’re taking on accountability for the entire plane.

Let’s say that something goes wrong with the aircraft. You can’t later blame it on anyone else. You can’t blame it on the steward or the stewardess. You can’t blame it on the copilot. You’re the captain. You’re responsible for the ship. If you screw up, you crash the ship, and there are immediate consequences.

In the old days, the captain was expected to go down with the ship. If the ship was sinking, then literally the last person who got to get off was the captain. I think accountability does come with real risks, but we’re talking about a business context.

The risk here would be that you would probably be the last one to get your capital back out. You’d be the last one to get paid for your time. The time that you’ve put in, the capital that you’ve put into the company, these are what are at risk.

Even if a business fails and your name’s on it, that’s not as bad as if it turns out to be an integrity issue. Bernie Madoff, for example, Madoff investments, that name is never going to be good again in the investment community. You could be Bernie Madoff’s great-great-great-grandson. You are not going to go into the investment business because he ruined the family name.

I think these days the accountability risk with a name happens more around integrity, rather than it does around purely economic failure.

Accountability is reputational skin in the game

Nivi: The big takeaway for me on accountability is that you will be rewarded directly in proportion with your accountability. I also think this is why people like Taleb rail against CEOs who get rewards without accountability.

Naval: Yeah. Taleb’s Skin In The Game is required reading. If you want to get anywhere in modern life and understand how modern systems work, then Skin In The Game would be near the top of my list to read.

Accountability, skin in the game, these concepts go very closely hand in hand. I think of accountability as reputational skin in the game. It’s putting your personal reputation on the line as skin in the game.

Accountability is a simple concept. The only part of accountability that may be a little counterintuitive is that we’re currently socially brainwashed to not take on accountability, not in a visible way.

I think there are ways to take on accountability where every member of a team can take on accountability for their portion. That is how you get a well-functioning team while still putting credits and losses in the correct columns.