概率是主观的

Naval Ravikant 2021-04-16

概率是主观的

Naval: 概率是否实际存在于物理宇宙中,还是我们无知的一种功能?如果我掷骰子,我不知道它会以哪一面落地;因此我引入了一个概率。但这是否意味着宇宙中确实存在一种不可知的概率性事物?宇宙是否在某个地方掷骰子,还是它总是确定性的?

Brett: 所有概率实际上都是主观的。不确定性和随机性都是主观的。你不知道结果会是什么,所以你掷骰子。这是因为你个人不知道;并不是因为宇宙深处存在不确定性。我们对量子理论的理解是,所有物理上可能的事情都会发生。

这导致了多重宇宙的概念。与其反驳所有试图理解量子理论的失败方式,我们不如认真对待量子理论方程所说的内容。根据实验,我们被迫思考量子理论的是,每一个可能发生的事情确实都会发生。这意味着宇宙中没有固有的不确定性,因为所有可能发生的事情实际上都会发生。并不是有些事情会发生而有些事情不会发生。一切都会发生。

你占据一个单一的宇宙,在那个宇宙中,当你掷骰子时,它显示为二。在物理现实的其他地方,它显示为一,在其他地方显示为三、四、五和六。

Naval: 如果我掷两个骰子,那么它们总和为二的宇宙数量少于我们掷出七的宇宙数量,因为七可以是三和四、五和二等等。所以宇宙的数量仍然对应于我们计算出的概率。

Brett: 是的。这导致了Deutsch称之为他们在量子理论中理解概率的决策理论方式。决策理论意味着你假设宇宙分裂事物的方式之间存在比例关系。所以如果你掷两个不同的骰子,那么宇宙会按比例分配成测度。测度是一种讨论无穷大的方式。


Probability Is Subjective

Naval: Does probability actually exist in the physical universe, or is it a function of our ignorance? If I’m rolling a die, I don’t know which way it’s going to land; so therefore I put in a probability. But does that mean there’s an actual probabilistic unknowable thing in the universe? Is the universe rolling a die somewhere, or is it always deterministic?

Brett: All probability is actually subjective. Uncertainty and randomness are subjective. You don’t know what the outcome’s going to be, so you roll a die. That’s because you individually do not know; it’s not because there is uncertainty there deeply in the universe. What we know about quantum theory is that all physically possible things occur.

This leads to the concept of the multiverse. Rather than refute all of the failed ways of trying to understand quantum theory, we’re going to take seriously what the equations of quantum theory say. What we’re compelled to think about quantum theory, given the experiments, is that every single possible thing that can happen does happen. This means that there is no inherent uncertainty in the universe because everything that can happen actually will happen. It’s not like some things will happen and some things won’t happen. Everything happens.

You occupy a single universe, and in that universe, when you roll the die, it comes up a two. Somewhere else in physical reality, it comes up a one, somewhere else a three, a four, a five, and a six.

Naval: If I’m rolling two dice, then the universes in which they sum up to two is less than the number of universes in which we roll a seven, because that can be a three and a four, a five and a two, and so on. So the number of universes still does correspond to what we calculate as the probability.

Brett: Yes. This leads to what Deutsch calls their decision-theoretic way of understanding probability within quantum theory. Decision-theoretic means you assume there’s proportionality between the universes’ way of splitting things up. So if you’re rolling two different dice, then the universes proportion themselves into measures. A measure is a way of talking about infinities.